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N!cole 3
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unsureanymore --- 12 years ago -

Can someone help me out? Can a CPT ( Captain ) be a Commander? Not sure how rank goes, I thought a Captain was under a Comander. 

ashml --- 12 years ago -

no actually my husbands commander is a captian..... 

N!cole --- 12 years ago -

They are usually only commanders of smaller groups like flights or sections. (If you are Air Force, it's close in the Army but a little diff) 

unsureanymore --- 12 years ago -

Ok thanks, so who does the CPT & or Commander report to, or who is over them? 

PapaSmurf --- 12 years ago -

A Captain is a rank; a commander is a position. The CPT (army abbreviation) and or Commander report to their supervisor. There's no way to say unless you provide specifics such as unit/organization. Their supervisor depends on knowing this fact. 

ashml --- 12 years ago -

who ever is o4 and above really usually its an o6 is a colonel (well in my husbands battalion) its really kinda hard to explain 

ashml --- 12 years ago -

and yes commander is a postion not a rank... 

PapaSmurf --- 12 years ago -

Correction...A Commander is a rank in the navy. (I assumed you were inquiring about either the army or air force in which it's a position.) 

N!cole --- 12 years ago -

Yea, in the Navy a Captain is the same as our full bird colonels so they would be able to be a commander of a larger group, and a regular lt commander and commanders are the same as our majors and lt cols. 

ashml --- 12 years ago -

yeah well if they are talking about navy then i am wrong LOL..but i highly doubt that..if you don't mind me asking why do you need to know this? 

PapaSmurf --- 12 years ago -

The RANK of Commander in the navy is an O-5 (paygrade). (The equivalent rank is Lieutenant Colonel in army,air force and marines). The navy also has the RANK of Lieutenant Commander,O-4 paygrade. (The equivalent rank is Major in army and air force and marines.) 

Bob --- 12 years ago -

Other than the Navy, commander is a position not a rank. Army, Air Force, and Marine Corp commanders can be of different ranks depending on the level in the organization. A squadron section or company commander could be a captain. On the other hand, Group or Batallion commanders would be O-5 or O-6. As far as the Navy, it is possible for an O-4 or O-5 to have the title captain if he/she is the commander of a ship or sub. 

unsureanymore --- 12 years ago -

Well this company Commander I take it his rank is CPT, and we are talking ARMY. So does anyone know who his boss - supervisor would be? There has to be someone above him, doesn't there? Maybe someone has a good friend or a relative that is high in rank or has some pull, we would even ask for help from our president if we knew we could get the help from him. I hope it doesn't take going that far or that high up the ladder. 

GaryKenyon --- 12 years ago -

I'm curious as to why you want to know all of this. I mean, if your husband doesn't know his own chain of command, then uhhhh....yeah... 

Emily --- 12 years ago -

No one can tell you that because we have no idea what unit your husband is in. It goes unit, batallion, brigade. So you'd need to know who his batallion commander is. But i'm going to tell you right now if you go straight to his batallion commander you'll be in deep Sh!t... 

Bob --- 12 years ago -

I'm with Gary on this one. It seems your husband should know his chain of command where he needs to go to get the answers/help he needs. Advising you of a rank/organization structure is not going to help. If there is a problem he feels he can't discuss with his superiors he can go to the JAG, but it better be more than getting in trouble for not having a haircut. 

Bob --- 12 years ago -

ok, i just looked at some of your other posts. you took an ERD because of problems with your marriage the way it looks. it seems now you want to get back together and be one big happy family in germany. i'm not really sure your husband's unit can really help. the guidelines are set several levels above his unit. i wish you luck but i'm afraid you will find that you should have considered the situation and the consequences of your actions before you opted for the ERD. if you intend on pursuing this you may find that you will have to go to the USEURA commander and i'm not really sure the commander will be all that sympathetic. 

N!cole --- 12 years ago -

Unfortunately I agree with Bob. You guys chose for the ERD. I don't think the military will be happy to pay another ticket to send you back especially if your year is not up. These rules are in place for a reason. Your husband's first sergeant is supposed to be helping with all enlisted issues. Not trying to be a super a$$ hole, but if your husband is enlisted and you guys are so in love you would know what rank the captains supervisor is. Sounds like you guys really aren't sharing as much info as you both should be if you are so in love. To me if you are so in love you would personally know all of this info about your husband. Regardless of if you cared you would know as much info as possilble about what he does. 

Kimberly --- 12 years ago -

I just want to say in a fairness here that being in love has nothing to do with understanding rank/position. Hell, I get so confused myself with my hubby's squadron....first shirts, commanders, chiefs,.....LOL. Trying to get all the acronyms down too can be confusing. Especially if you are new to the military and or a younger spouse. Just some thoughts as it seems you can't post crap on here with out everyone jumping on their soapbox and waving their stick...LOLOL. 

Bob --- 12 years ago -

Kimberly, i agree that love has nothing to do with understanding the military rank/organizational structure. it should be the member's responsibility to know this and go the appropriate people. i never expected my wife to understand any part of it. besides, in cases like this one, there may be a need to go outside the chain of command and that can get even more confusing. 

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