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Cat Declawing, what is your opinion

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Mojo 6
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Bob 4
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Smiles --- 11 years ago -

I think it is wrong but here is this lady on RYS's view i sent her an email with alternatives to declawing, my favorite part of the ad is when she says "i know germans think its cruel" Why would she say that only germans think its cruel? lol 

Melinda --- 11 years ago -

probably because she hasn't done any research on it herself aside from the fact that it can't be done here in germany.

I've never considered declawing my cat because he doesn't scratch anything so it's not ever something i had to worry about. 

Fran --- 11 years ago -

It is illegal in most European countries.
Did she really basically write "I know Germans think it is cruel (a.k.a. illegal) but where can I get it legally done? LOL 

Bob --- 11 years ago -

having a cat that scratches is like having a dog that chews...it happens. you pull a dog's teeth and you don't declaw a cat. take responsibility for you pets and get them things and do things with them that will keep them clawing and chewing the things you want them to destroy not the things you want to keep.

to quote a very smart person, the key is "rules, boundries, and limitations". even cats are smart enough to learn what is and is not acceptable. (is that a blatant enough jab at cats?)

everyone knows, or should know before they get a cat, that they claw things. if you're not willing to go through the growing process i would suggest you let someone else get the cat. 

Melinda --- 11 years ago -

so true Bob. My cat likes to open cabinets and hang out in there doing God knows what. He'll open every cabinet/closet door in every room of the house except the kitchen because I trained him that was unacceptable. Cats can be trained. I actually think it was easier to train my cat than it is to train my dog. 

Mojo --- 11 years ago -

That lady should go and have her fingernails ripped off, and then tell me she doesn't think it's cruel to declaw a cat. 

CoffeeLuvr --- 11 years ago -

Agreed Mojo! I read somewhere that declawing is actually worse than just ripping out the nails, it would be the eqivalent of humans having fingers removed at the middle knuckle. The cats have to learn how to walk and balance again after the surgery because it is more than just having nails cut out. OUCH! :( 

Bob --- 11 years ago -

if you want something like a cat and don't want the scratching...get a skunk. my daughter has one she keeps for the state park where she works. the stupid thing is just like a cat, even does its business in a litter box!!! just make sure you get one from a line that has been domesticated for many generations and comes with the stink sack removed. i love watching the skunk chase her little rat dogs around the house!!! 

Twinmama --- 11 years ago -

Smiles- I e-mailed her with alternatives too!

That being said, we did get our cat declawed when he got fixed (we were stationed in the U.S.). It is so common in the US, I never even thought about it- it was almost automatic with the fixing.

I told DH that I will never declaw a cat again. When we lived in England, we had to lie and say that we adopted our cat that way- I was afraid the vet would ban us :)

Fran, yes, she pretty much wrote that. 

jess.d --- 11 years ago -

everyone knows, or should know before they get a cat, that they claw things. if you're not willing to go through the growing process i would suggest you let someone else get the cat. 

we got our cat as a kitten and he immediately started scratching the backs of our couches and tearing them so we got a squirt bottle and started spraying him every time he did it..it took a while for him to get it and our couches paid the price but he doesnt do it anymore so now when we get new couches i know that it wont happen and if he tries ill break out the squirt bottle again..i also did the same thing when he would try and get on the counter (i think its gross to have animals where i have food) and he now knows that he cant go on counters :) 

Mojo --- 11 years ago -

Our rottweiler destroyed an entire couch when we first got her.

Totally our fault, but man, Bob isn't kidding about the chewing. And the bigger the dog, the bigger the destruction lol. 

Bob --- 11 years ago -

mojo, and usually the chewing lasts a lot longer with bigger dogs. mine almost ate my house before she got out of her chewing stage. she even chewed up the metal knobs on my heater and bit through the electrical cable for the igniter!!!! she chewed on everything i gave her and then attacked everything else that was wood or metal it seemed. my couch, chairs, even wooden table were all safe. she loved the handrails on the steps and the steps. 

lovinmelife --- 11 years ago -

I am 100% for declawing..Sorry ( hands up to block punches ) ..We adopted a cat from the shelter who otherwise would have been put down..He was clawing my small child forcefully and hurting him. He was put out completly..given pain meds for a few days and healed 100%...he was only walking funny for 1 1/2 days. I have no regrets. We saved his life the day we adopted him. We have given him a great home. He has traveled to Japan, states and now germany with us. I have 3 kids who cuddle him daily but had he not been declawed we would have returned him to the shelter and they would have put him down. I did also use and do use a spray bottle to train him to stay out of my kitchen. But when they claw children it is fast and spraying wont work 

Kristen --- 11 years ago -

I used to be for declawing but am not now

we have three cats with all of their claws 

anne --- 11 years ago -

i have three cats and they all have thire claws i dont like to even think about it but at the end of the day its up too the cat s owners and therfoe i dont think ppl who belive in it should be judged . 

Blueser oO --- 11 years ago -

Declawing IS cruel and unnecessary. If you don't want to be clawed or have your stuff shredded, don't get a cat! I used to foster kittens and some would climb up my legs with and without pants on. You deal with it or don't put yourself in that situation. I see this along the same lines as having dogs' vocal cords removed, cropping tails and ears, and removing teeth in breeding dogs. All disgusting! 

Bahet --- 11 years ago -

Team Lovinmelife. We have 2 cats we got in Feb. They were 4 months and 6 months old and had been in the shelter their entire lives. We got them, had them declawed and got them their shots. They were completely sedated and given a patch and medicine for a week so they were never in any pain.

They are now spoiled rotten with their own room, run of the entire house (except our bedroom at night), get love/treats/toys. If someone said I could have a life like they have if I gave up the first knuckle of my toes I'd say "Go for it." 

CMS --- 11 years ago -

Both of my cats are declawed, and have been for many years. Would I do it again... I don't know. I do know that they don't seem to have suffered any ill effects. Neither of them have become violent or biters. They still try to sharpen their paws on the edge of the couch. First cat was already done, and the second was done by laser, so there are less issues with healing. They didn't seem to have any more trouble than the dog that had to have hernia surgery with healing or pain. That is just my experience, though. Because they are declawed, we have been able to live in two different places that don't allow animals, and they are also able to fly in the same kennel when we travel. We are almost at the end of our major travels, though, and will be buying our own house again since we are retiring soon. 

Mojo --- 11 years ago -

Bob, our rottie is still a chewer. She has calmed down a lot, but we still don't leave anything on the ground outside that we don't want her to chew, and we don't leave her alone in the house for more than an hour or so. It's just asking for trouble lol. 

Mojo --- 11 years ago -

Also, I don't get how it's acceptable to declaw cats, but not dogs.

But then, I'm a purist and prefer to leave my animals in the same form they were born with. None of our dogs have ever had anything cosmetic done, our rottie still has her tails, our mastiff had her tail and her ears weren't snipped, only our frenchie has had his tail done, but we are his 3rd family and it was done by his breeder, I think. 

EuroMaker --- 11 years ago -

Do your dogs have their male or female parts? 

Bob --- 11 years ago -

good point euromaker. many people refuse to have their pets fixed because they think they are doing something terrible to the animal. the same people with declaw a cat and take it's defensive abilities away. you don't pull the teeth out of a dog that chews so why would you take the claws off of a cat?

here's a web site that talks about this: http://pets.webmd.com/cats/guide/declawing-cats-positives-negatives-alternatives

the sad thing is the option that is the worst for the cat is the most common because the better method is more difficult and time consuming so most vets do us this method. i'm sure many owners opt for the easier method for money reasons as well. 

Mojo --- 11 years ago -

Our pets are fixed, but that is not cosmetic or to avoid damage to the furniture. I think population control for animals is a huge issue and I am dead set against backyard breeders or those who let their dogs breed indiscriminately. If I was with my dog 24/7, year round, I wouldn't get her spayed. Since my husband and I both work, this was the better option.

And on a more shallow level, I don't really care for puppies, and am happy to get them after they are housebroken and sleeping through the night. Plus, to provide the level of care that I personally deem necessary to ensure healthy pups, it would be hugely expensive. 

Blueser oO --- 11 years ago -

Our male dog is fixed because I adopted him from a shelter and they won't adopt out intact animals. My female dog that stayed with my dad is not altered, but she is an indoor dog and has no chance of pregnancy. If we had a fenced yard that she was alone in all day, we would have reconsidered, but I didn't want to risk the surgery when she would never see an intact male anyways. 

EuroMaker --- 11 years ago -

My Yorkie is spayed. I was told by our vet that spaying her before a certain age would reduce her chances of getting certain type of cancer tremendously if not completely. It seemed like a no-brainer. 

Mojo --- 11 years ago -

We were told the same thing, but I will be honest that my main motivation was no puppies. I am all about the population control. 

EuroMaker --- 11 years ago -

I would not have minded having some little Yorkies around, but the idea of eliminating the cancer risk was too great. 

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